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	<title>Comments on: OpenMoko Wiki Face + Late OM Indoctrination</title>
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		<title>By: Gabriel</title>
		<link>http://rejon.org/2007/09/10/openmoko-wiki-face-late-om-indoctrination/#comment-49991</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 23:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just did ipkg upgrade and noticed that step #3 shouldn't be necessary anymore; openmoko-dialer2 r2976 is now available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just did ipkg upgrade and noticed that step #3 shouldn&#8217;t be necessary anymore; openmoko-dialer2 r2976 is now available.</p>
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		<title>By: jon</title>
		<link>http://rejon.org/2007/09/10/openmoko-wiki-face-late-om-indoctrination/#comment-47738</link>
		<dc:creator>jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 17:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heya Abraxa, I will try to be separate, but to be honest, I think its more important that I shoot from the hip and try to represent what the common developer/user sees and understands. Branding wise, most will be even less picky than I, right? I personally think the distinction between openmoko and the neo 1973 is complicated...probably best to use similar branding across the board and or have study conducted to find out what ppl think, although I already have a grasp on that if someone wants to pay me to say ;) Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heya Abraxa, I will try to be separate, but to be honest, I think its more important that I shoot from the hip and try to represent what the common developer/user sees and understands. Branding wise, most will be even less picky than I, right? I personally think the distinction between openmoko and the neo 1973 is complicated&#8230;probably best to use similar branding across the board and or have study conducted to find out what ppl think, although I already have a grasp on that if someone wants to pay me to say <img src='http://rejon.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Abraxa</title>
		<link>http://rejon.org/2007/09/10/openmoko-wiki-face-late-om-indoctrination/#comment-47682</link>
		<dc:creator>Abraxa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 08:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the feedback, Jon, and without wanting to look like a nitpicker I would like to encourage you to separate the software distribution (OpenMoko) and the pieces of hardware that OpenMoko is designed for (Neo 1973 &#38; Co).
Constructions like "to get my Moko working" just sound a little odd in this light.

Also, Angstrom is the part of the distribution that is *not* specific to OpenMoko but that's just being nitty gritty now, I know. ;)

Have a great day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the feedback, Jon, and without wanting to look like a nitpicker I would like to encourage you to separate the software distribution (OpenMoko) and the pieces of hardware that OpenMoko is designed for (Neo 1973 &amp; Co).<br />
Constructions like &#8220;to get my Moko working&#8221; just sound a little odd in this light.</p>
<p>Also, Angstrom is the part of the distribution that is *not* specific to OpenMoko but that&#8217;s just being nitty gritty now, I know. <img src='http://rejon.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Have a great day!</p>
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		<title>By: My OpenMoko Dialed! at rejon.org</title>
		<link>http://rejon.org/2007/09/10/openmoko-wiki-face-late-om-indoctrination/#comment-45139</link>
		<dc:creator>My OpenMoko Dialed! at rejon.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] bit of time today trying to get my OpenMoko working, especially after prodding from some from my previous post and some inspiration from this great [...]</description>
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		<title>By: jon</title>
		<link>http://rejon.org/2007/09/10/openmoko-wiki-face-late-om-indoctrination/#comment-44889</link>
		<dc:creator>jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 18:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool and thanks John for the pointer..yes, this did update everything, but now I can't get the dialer to work...this is a most definite improvement...are there any tricks on getting the dialer to work? I"m just using my tmobile sim from my normal phone...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool and thanks John for the pointer..yes, this did update everything, but now I can&#8217;t get the dialer to work&#8230;this is a most definite improvement&#8230;are there any tricks on getting the dialer to work? I&#8221;m just using my tmobile sim from my normal phone&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John Gilmore</title>
		<link>http://rejon.org/2007/09/10/openmoko-wiki-face-late-om-indoctrination/#comment-44442</link>
		<dc:creator>John Gilmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 07:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on guys; the sky is not falling.  The OpenMoko distro was only broken for a day or so.  Turns out the problem was in the muxing of GSM and console on one serial port, as the Harald link above pointed out.  Simple changes in /etc/init.d/gsm circumvent it.  The new gsm script is checked in, and "ipkg update &#38;&#38; ipkg upgrade" will pull it in.

To get the "ipkg upgrade" to not hang the system as it tries to shut down the old gsm daemon before upgrading, you may want to manually edit /etc/init.d/gsm by adding:

        stty -F /dev/ttySAC0 -crtscts
        [ -n "$GSM_POW" ] &#38;&#38; echo "0" &#62;$GSM_POW

before the echo gsm in the "stop" section.  Then upgrade.  Then your openmoko will be fine (mine is).

The software isn't finished -- but the team DOES understand software engineering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on guys; the sky is not falling.  The OpenMoko distro was only broken for a day or so.  Turns out the problem was in the muxing of GSM and console on one serial port, as the Harald link above pointed out.  Simple changes in /etc/init.d/gsm circumvent it.  The new gsm script is checked in, and &#8220;ipkg update &amp;&amp; ipkg upgrade&#8221; will pull it in.</p>
<p>To get the &#8220;ipkg upgrade&#8221; to not hang the system as it tries to shut down the old gsm daemon before upgrading, you may want to manually edit /etc/init.d/gsm by adding:</p>
<p>        stty -F /dev/ttySAC0 -crtscts<br />
        [ -n "$GSM_POW" ] &amp;&amp; echo &#8220;0&#8243; &gt;$GSM_POW</p>
<p>before the echo gsm in the &#8220;stop&#8221; section.  Then upgrade.  Then your openmoko will be fine (mine is).</p>
<p>The software isn&#8217;t finished &#8212; but the team DOES understand software engineering.</p>
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		<title>By: jon</title>
		<link>http://rejon.org/2007/09/10/openmoko-wiki-face-late-om-indoctrination/#comment-43777</link>
		<dc:creator>jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 07:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I'm hopeful that they will adopt open company policies to help build the community up...I fear that there is too much noise right now, and there really needs to be some clarity gained to fix up things...simple things like how to make a phone call and just not committing borked code is a start, albeit a small one...

I just don't want to be negative because I want mine to really really work :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;m hopeful that they will adopt open company policies to help build the community up&#8230;I fear that there is too much noise right now, and there really needs to be some clarity gained to fix up things&#8230;simple things like how to make a phone call and just not committing borked code is a start, albeit a small one&#8230;</p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t want to be negative because I want mine to really really work <img src='http://rejon.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Luis Villa</title>
		<link>http://rejon.org/2007/09/10/openmoko-wiki-face-late-om-indoctrination/#comment-43590</link>
		<dc:creator>Luis Villa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 11:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, it is pretty spectacular that they haven't made it usable as a phone yet, so the bit about committing broken code (sadly) doesn't surprise me. Lots of promise there- shame they seem to be missing out on some of the basics of good engineering practice and good community-building practice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, it is pretty spectacular that they haven&#8217;t made it usable as a phone yet, so the bit about committing broken code (sadly) doesn&#8217;t surprise me. Lots of promise there- shame they seem to be missing out on some of the basics of good engineering practice and good community-building practice.</p>
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		<title>By: Overlap.org &#187; OpenMoko Wiki Face + Late OM Indoctrination</title>
		<link>http://rejon.org/2007/09/10/openmoko-wiki-face-late-om-indoctrination/#comment-43485</link>
		<dc:creator>Overlap.org &#187; OpenMoko Wiki Face + Late OM Indoctrination</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 08:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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