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		<title>By: jon</title>
		<link>http://rejon.org/2006/06/19/think-different-apple-boycott/#comment-75307</link>
		<dc:creator>jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 04:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yah, I didn't think about that, but yes, they can track these down, but it is most definitely not in their economic interest to do so. Forget apple and go get some generic player that can run rockbox:

http://www.rockbox.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yah, I didn&#8217;t think about that, but yes, they can track these down, but it is most definitely not in their economic interest to do so. Forget apple and go get some generic player that can run rockbox:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rockbox.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.rockbox.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: AppleHater</title>
		<link>http://rejon.org/2006/06/19/think-different-apple-boycott/#comment-75187</link>
		<dc:creator>AppleHater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AND ONE MORE THING!  There's another reason Apple makes money by refusing to track, or at least prevent thieves from using YOUR iPod on iTunes (for example)....THIEVES USE ITUNES TOOOOOOOO!  And Apple allows them to do it!  Just plug it in...finders keepers! Crooks stick together that way.

http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/04/15/why-i-wont-buy-an-ipod/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AND ONE MORE THING!  There&#8217;s another reason Apple makes money by refusing to track, or at least prevent thieves from using YOUR iPod on iTunes (for example)&#8230;.THIEVES USE ITUNES TOOOOOOOO!  And Apple allows them to do it!  Just plug it in&#8230;finders keepers! Crooks stick together that way.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/04/15/why-i-wont-buy-an-ipod/" rel="nofollow">http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/04/15/why-i-wont-buy-an-ipod/</a></p>
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		<title>By: AppleHater</title>
		<link>http://rejon.org/2006/06/19/think-different-apple-boycott/#comment-75186</link>
		<dc:creator>AppleHater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm glad for this web site.  I wish there were more.  My gripe about Apple stems from the fact that Apple CLEARLY has a way to track down stolen iPods, but they REFUSE to do so because they make more money when people have to buy a new iPod.  Yesterday, they refused to help me when I called to report that my brand new Nano was stolen only hours before, but told me to contact "local law enforcement" and that Apple would cooperate with law enforcement in any way they could.  Apple OBVIOUSLY has the technological capability to trackdown my iPod.  Their reluctance to even OFFER insurance on iPod purchases is even more evidence of the "you're-screwed-and-we-don't-care" mentality.  I'm so SICK OF APPLE!  Please report stolen iPods on http://www.stolen911.com/.  Since Apple won't help us, let's help eachother.  I probably won't get my iPod back, but I like this web site because I officially HATE APPLE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad for this web site.  I wish there were more.  My gripe about Apple stems from the fact that Apple CLEARLY has a way to track down stolen iPods, but they REFUSE to do so because they make more money when people have to buy a new iPod.  Yesterday, they refused to help me when I called to report that my brand new Nano was stolen only hours before, but told me to contact &#8220;local law enforcement&#8221; and that Apple would cooperate with law enforcement in any way they could.  Apple OBVIOUSLY has the technological capability to trackdown my iPod.  Their reluctance to even OFFER insurance on iPod purchases is even more evidence of the &#8220;you&#8217;re-screwed-and-we-don&#8217;t-care&#8221; mentality.  I&#8217;m so SICK OF APPLE!  Please report stolen iPods on <a href="http://www.stolen911.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.stolen911.com/</a>.  Since Apple won&#8217;t help us, let&#8217;s help eachother.  I probably won&#8217;t get my iPod back, but I like this web site because I officially HATE APPLE!</p>
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		<title>By: Tedious</title>
		<link>http://rejon.org/2006/06/19/think-different-apple-boycott/#comment-15592</link>
		<dc:creator>Tedious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 00:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have many valid points, save one: The Greenpeace thing.  It's a shakedown. 

Apple does enough bad things, there is no need to spread false claims. It damages credibility and makes it easy to be labeled "MS Fanboi" or thir latest insult: a "Dvorak".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have many valid points, save one: The Greenpeace thing.  It&#8217;s a shakedown. </p>
<p>Apple does enough bad things, there is no need to spread false claims. It damages credibility and makes it easy to be labeled &#8220;MS Fanboi&#8221; or thir latest insult: a &#8220;Dvorak&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: halo_bone</title>
		<link>http://rejon.org/2006/06/19/think-different-apple-boycott/#comment-1137</link>
		<dc:creator>halo_bone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 01:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm just sick of these die-hard Apple enthusiasts.  People who claim Apple's are "better" for their field, although the majority of software is available for both systems, and Apple's don't provide much customization.  I don't like that Apple abused open-source code for OS but it's because it's that much more solid, and honestly, MS should do the same (even though they won't).  I don't like how everything on and with an Apple comes from only Apple, and their unwillingness to work with others, which is what makes downloading and installing Mac OS on a PC is so much fun =) .  Lastly, I don't like their 'put an "i" in front of everything', "we look cool" marketing scheme (which is working wonderfully, look at graphic designers), and can't wait until a few years from now when all the white iProducts and iPod headphone cords begin to turn yellow.

However, I won't be suprised when Apple holds the majority of the market, and will have to put up with even more Mac enthusiasts everywhere I go.  Despite my opinions, Apple is doing a damn good job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just sick of these die-hard Apple enthusiasts.  People who claim Apple&#8217;s are &#8220;better&#8221; for their field, although the majority of software is available for both systems, and Apple&#8217;s don&#8217;t provide much customization.  I don&#8217;t like that Apple abused open-source code for OS but it&#8217;s because it&#8217;s that much more solid, and honestly, MS should do the same (even though they won&#8217;t).  I don&#8217;t like how everything on and with an Apple comes from only Apple, and their unwillingness to work with others, which is what makes downloading and installing Mac OS on a PC is so much fun =) .  Lastly, I don&#8217;t like their &#8216;put an &#8220;i&#8221; in front of everything&#8217;, &#8220;we look cool&#8221; marketing scheme (which is working wonderfully, look at graphic designers), and can&#8217;t wait until a few years from now when all the white iProducts and iPod headphone cords begin to turn yellow.</p>
<p>However, I won&#8217;t be suprised when Apple holds the majority of the market, and will have to put up with even more Mac enthusiasts everywhere I go.  Despite my opinions, Apple is doing a damn good job.</p>
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		<title>By: rejon.org : The Jon Phillips Portal</title>
		<link>http://rejon.org/2006/06/19/think-different-apple-boycott/#comment-998</link>
		<dc:creator>rejon.org : The Jon Phillips Portal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 18:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Similar to my previous post about boycotting Apple, I feel that this is the best way to send a message to these bad business morals.  Posted by jon @ 13:54:33 2006.07.21 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Similar to my previous post about boycotting Apple, I feel that this is the best way to send a message to these bad business morals.  Posted by jon @ 13:54:33 2006.07.21 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Alan Ryan</title>
		<link>http://rejon.org/2006/06/19/think-different-apple-boycott/#comment-970</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Alan Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 15:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One last comment:

  I'd love to be the guy to help drive F/OSS policy at Apple, but my resume has probably been shredded after I sent a drunken rant to Steve_Jobs@apple.com demanding the progressive release of more source code.  I don't regret it.

  I'll see you at the docks, Steve-o. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One last comment:</p>
<p>  I&#8217;d love to be the guy to help drive F/OSS policy at Apple, but my resume has probably been shredded after I sent a drunken rant to <a href="mailto:Steve_Jobs@apple.com">Steve_Jobs@apple.com</a> demanding the progressive release of more source code.  I don&#8217;t regret it.</p>
<p>  I&#8217;ll see you at the docks, Steve-o. <img src='http://rejon.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Justin Alan Ryan</title>
		<link>http://rejon.org/2006/06/19/think-different-apple-boycott/#comment-968</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Alan Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 14:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, I got a link to the slashdot post from G. Scott Owen, our ACM SIGGRAPH President..  I don't think that famous people switching to GNU/Linux is as big of a deal as mundane people ditching a ten-year Windows habit for a Mac.

I really think it is a tough issue.  As I said, I've become a huge Apple Fan.  I can't imagine being happy with a machine made by anyone else, and I waited *months* to replace the PowerBook that some schmuck sat on last Nov.  For about two months I glared at the Sony VAIO with Core Duo on Amazon while the release date for MacBook Pro failed to launch.

I'm definitely violating the spirit of Free Software that dictates that software quality is not more important than software freedom, but I have to find a middleground.  The investment in Apple has really paid off for me, esp. during the last two years of unemployed life.  The last time I was unemployed for this long, I couldn't get anything done because I didn't have my own internet connection and simply could not maintain a Debian system.  There really isn't anyone who addresses this and IMO a lot of F/OSS platforms are driven by people who can afford to, for lack of a better term, Dick Around All Day.

I tell you what - Inkscape, The GIMP, Blender, and Camino, a Cocoa variant of FireFox, all serve me quite well, I don't cry out in agony trying to install Zope, or anything for that matter, from source, as my Windows-using counterparts do, and for the first time since my freshman year of High School, I feel like a part of normalized digital society again.  I can download things and have them run and participate in social computing activities to an extent that is generally not possible for Linux users.

For over ten years I gave up being a part of the world for pure Freedom, and it was great, and I may go back, but my current slant is that Apple is the most conscientious commercial entity in computing whom I deal with, from my perspective, and they are more likely to listen to me as a customer than a non.

I do also feel strongly that Apple are misperceived as not giving much back to the community, and I feel that what they *really* lack is proper leadership on this front.  Someone's got to step forward, IMO Steve-o can only be expected to do so much.  If Bill Gates has led a sea of engineers and users to the - no pun intended - gates of hell, Steve-O is at least screaming "Let My People Go!".  Ya gotta love a guy who was fired from his own company, returned, and now publicly slams the management decisions made while he was gone in Keynote speeches. ;)

I must admit I was smacked in the face after asserting that iTunes does not restrict me from doing anything that is not illegal.  This is not the case.  As of iTunes 4.6 or so, once you have upgraded iTunes and accessed your account with the latest iTunes, you can't access with a previous version *or* rip the DRM from your content.  Furthermore, there is no means of pulling the DRM from video downloaded via iTunes, so the season of "Weeds" I just shucked out $20 for, which I thoroughly enjoyed watching on my 15" HD widescreen, can't be burned to DVD to share with my roommates.

In any case, as someone who boycotted RedHat for years, but now loves a good, solid, RHEL server, I think there are better ways to be heard.  BTW, this reminds me that once, when I worked at TurboLinux, we hired a prop-plane to circle the RedHat picnic at their semi-private Linux conference with a "Freedom of Choice!" banner.   We had been ejected the previous day as guests of IBM after hiring a high school cheerleading squad to pass out our obnoxious yellow sweatshop t-shirts.

Boy I don't miss those days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, I got a link to the slashdot post from G. Scott Owen, our ACM SIGGRAPH President..  I don&#8217;t think that famous people switching to GNU/Linux is as big of a deal as mundane people ditching a ten-year Windows habit for a Mac.</p>
<p>I really think it is a tough issue.  As I said, I&#8217;ve become a huge Apple Fan.  I can&#8217;t imagine being happy with a machine made by anyone else, and I waited *months* to replace the PowerBook that some schmuck sat on last Nov.  For about two months I glared at the Sony VAIO with Core Duo on Amazon while the release date for MacBook Pro failed to launch.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m definitely violating the spirit of Free Software that dictates that software quality is not more important than software freedom, but I have to find a middleground.  The investment in Apple has really paid off for me, esp. during the last two years of unemployed life.  The last time I was unemployed for this long, I couldn&#8217;t get anything done because I didn&#8217;t have my own internet connection and simply could not maintain a Debian system.  There really isn&#8217;t anyone who addresses this and IMO a lot of F/OSS platforms are driven by people who can afford to, for lack of a better term, Dick Around All Day.</p>
<p>I tell you what - Inkscape, The GIMP, Blender, and Camino, a Cocoa variant of FireFox, all serve me quite well, I don&#8217;t cry out in agony trying to install Zope, or anything for that matter, from source, as my Windows-using counterparts do, and for the first time since my freshman year of High School, I feel like a part of normalized digital society again.  I can download things and have them run and participate in social computing activities to an extent that is generally not possible for Linux users.</p>
<p>For over ten years I gave up being a part of the world for pure Freedom, and it was great, and I may go back, but my current slant is that Apple is the most conscientious commercial entity in computing whom I deal with, from my perspective, and they are more likely to listen to me as a customer than a non.</p>
<p>I do also feel strongly that Apple are misperceived as not giving much back to the community, and I feel that what they *really* lack is proper leadership on this front.  Someone&#8217;s got to step forward, IMO Steve-o can only be expected to do so much.  If Bill Gates has led a sea of engineers and users to the - no pun intended - gates of hell, Steve-O is at least screaming &#8220;Let My People Go!&#8221;.  Ya gotta love a guy who was fired from his own company, returned, and now publicly slams the management decisions made while he was gone in Keynote speeches. <img src='http://rejon.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I must admit I was smacked in the face after asserting that iTunes does not restrict me from doing anything that is not illegal.  This is not the case.  As of iTunes 4.6 or so, once you have upgraded iTunes and accessed your account with the latest iTunes, you can&#8217;t access with a previous version *or* rip the DRM from your content.  Furthermore, there is no means of pulling the DRM from video downloaded via iTunes, so the season of &#8220;Weeds&#8221; I just shucked out $20 for, which I thoroughly enjoyed watching on my 15&#8243; HD widescreen, can&#8217;t be burned to DVD to share with my roommates.</p>
<p>In any case, as someone who boycotted RedHat for years, but now loves a good, solid, RHEL server, I think there are better ways to be heard.  BTW, this reminds me that once, when I worked at TurboLinux, we hired a prop-plane to circle the RedHat picnic at their semi-private Linux conference with a &#8220;Freedom of Choice!&#8221; banner.   We had been ejected the previous day as guests of IBM after hiring a high school cheerleading squad to pass out our obnoxious yellow sweatshop t-shirts.</p>
<p>Boy I don&#8217;t miss those days.</p>
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		<title>By: usmediaweb&#187; Blog Archive &#187; Think Different. Apple. Boycott.</title>
		<link>http://rejon.org/2006/06/19/think-different-apple-boycott/#comment-936</link>
		<dc:creator>usmediaweb&#187; Blog Archive &#187; Think Different. Apple. Boycott.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 00:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jon</title>
		<link>http://rejon.org/2006/06/19/think-different-apple-boycott/#comment-927</link>
		<dc:creator>jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2006 00:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa, what a response! That is an amazing rebuttal.

My point is that it is great Apple is getting things well in so many ways, but they are really taking from the Open Source community without much giving. Thus, I think that if one wants to support free and open source software, culture and content, please use Free and Open Source friendly software and hardware (if that is possible).

Check this thread today: http://apple.slashdot.org/apple/06/07/03/1934251.shtml

I guess this topic is heating up the web.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa, what a response! That is an amazing rebuttal.</p>
<p>My point is that it is great Apple is getting things well in so many ways, but they are really taking from the Open Source community without much giving. Thus, I think that if one wants to support free and open source software, culture and content, please use Free and Open Source friendly software and hardware (if that is possible).</p>
<p>Check this thread today: <a href="http://apple.slashdot.org/apple/06/07/03/1934251.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://apple.slashdot.org/apple/06/07/03/1934251.shtml</a></p>
<p>I guess this topic is heating up the web.</p>
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